IJDb Developers' Forum

Fixed

A bug ... plain and simple. It has been squashed.

Thanks for letting me know.
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Colin E.

Re: b0rked ... by design

... and another little tweak , the year of the event is now displayed alongside its name.
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Colin E.

Re: b0rked ... by design

Hi,

Thanks for letting me know the exact details - I have now added a 'Past Events' search facility. Hope that helps.
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Colin E.

Re: Update - my bad :(

Now finally it all makes sense!

I have fixed the formatting in the editors view also. Hope that's resolves the problem for you.

Regards,
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Colin E.

Update - my bad :(

Hi again,

Okay, problem resolved I think.

Everything seems to work as desired *when I am logged out as an editor*.

But of course I often enter the IJDb as an editor, in which case events page listings float to the left instead of the centre, and throw away all spacing.

Thanks for your attention, but I've fixermalised the problem ;-)

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Jay Linn
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JayLinn

Bump - request to maintain event submission text formatting

Hi Colin,

I've mentioned this before, but can event details please be displayed the way they are input, instead of in a single monospaced line of details?

I've just submitted details for L2! - http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?id=7436 - and it's spoiled all my luvverly formatting!

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Jay Linn
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Jay Linn

Re: wrong forum

Sorry, Sorry,
I´ve just seen it and will never make the same mistake again.Promised!!!
regards Schuchti
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schuchti

wrong forum

Hi,

You have posted your juggling query to the IJDb developers' forum at http://www.jugglingdb.com/dev/index.php

Please read the first paragraph on that page, specifically the bit that says :-

"This is place to discuss the development of this site and to find out what is in the pipeline. For general juggling chat, please use rec.juggling".

You can find the IJDb portal to rec.juggling here - http://www.jugglingdb.com/news/

HTH. Have fun.

Dave (my turn to cut and paste the standard answer again)
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Dave Barnes

ZirkuLaer N°4,any participants from sweden?

Hi,
does anyone know any jugglers from Sweden, who wants to visit the convention in Laer/ Germany in October? (www.zirkulaer.de)
There is a young guy in Eksjö, who is looking for an opportunity to drive together. Please, if someone is interested, send me an email.
friendly regards Elke
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schuchti

wrong forum

under leg with balls specials

hi
in club juggling you see often alberts and treblas
is should be possible with balls too but you never see it
does anyone know how to do it or know other juggling tricks with using the leg
that are more than a simple under leg throw?
like a box alternating between legs or something
thanks
jan
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janjongleer

b0rked ... by design

Upon further investigation it appears that an event search only looks at future events.

Any chance of some sort of option? Or perhaps two panels in the results page, one for future and one for past?

HTH.

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Jay
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Jay Linn

Events search appears to be b0rked

Hi,

Whilst using the search box at the bottom of the sidebar to look for records of past events, I have just searched for "manchester", "Manchester", and "chorlton" in the 'events' option in the drop down menu. None yielded any results at all in the events section. I don't know whether the events search is failing to look retrospectively, but it should really be uncovering the events recorded in http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?level=1&sort=country&past=true which has records for at least the four years I could be bothered to look.

Not a biggie, but HTH.

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Jay.
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Jay Linn

JuggleWiki link

Hi,

It's great that the jugglewiki is back.

But perhaps the bottom left window of the IJdB front page (our link to the wiki) is not needed. And the statement there (about beeing hosted by the IJdB) is in contradiction with what is said in the editor's pick window.

Salut i malabars

Dani
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Dani BCN

Setting up a mail address for corrections/suggestions reg. translations

Could it be an idea to set up mail addresses for sending in suggestions or reporting mistakes/typos in the translations?
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Le_lemGo

'Unknown' video category empty for translated pages

Hi Colin!

As the title suggests, the 'Unknown' category says there are 0 vids for the pages which have been translated, although it works normally for the ones which haven't been:

http://www.jugglingdb.com/videos/index.php?keyword=12&text=Inconnu

http://www.jugglingdb.com/videos/index.php?keyword=none&text=Unknown

Any ideas to why?

Thanks.
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Le_lemGo

Minor problem with event submissions

Hi,

I have just approved an update to http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?id=7364 which is a long series of workshops at the Katakomben, running from September 15th to December 12th. The events submission form requests a start date, and a duration from a drop down menu that runs from 1 to 27 days, which is plainly inadequate for the roughly three month duration of this course.

Having a start date and a duration is a bit odd, and also imposes an artificial limitation on duration. Could we just have form fields for start and finish dates?

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Jay
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Jay Linn

Re: Added.

Hi Colin!
Reading this topic, I went and had a look at the video section.
I guess you had noticed that more than half of the videos fall under the category 'Unknown'!
I also guess that you are currently working on moving the contents to the appropriate categories, and when I click on this category in any of the translated languages, it actually shows 0 videos.
If not, then there's something wrong...
Aymeric.
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Le_lemGo

Re: Only works intermittently for me

Scott and Jay,

Thanks for your responses.

Dave
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Dave Altman

Only works intermittently for me

It seems Dave is not alone. I have no idea what is at the root of the problem, and it's too small to bother me personally, but I often encounter authentication bugs such as a double login request. It isn't a browser autofill problem because I've known it happen when manually entering my login.

I also regularly get a page timeout or infinite load trying to enter IJDb chat from the 'currently chatting ...' link. I have a feeling that's a local router problem, but you might as well know about it I suppose.

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Jay
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Jay Linn

Works for me

I'm guessing that your password that is automatically filled in the first time is wrong and the password that is filled in the second time is correct. They are two different pages so this can happen.

So, next time it fills in the password, overwrite the filled in text with the correct password (and the browser will probably warn you that you're changing it) and then it should work in the future.

-Scott
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Scott Seltzer

Double log in required

Hi E.Coli,

I mentioned this to you a while back, but to refresh your memory; I normally just stayed logged in to IJDb, but sometimes it logs me out, so I have to log in manually. I insert my user name and the password is automatically entered. I click the box to remember me; then, I try to log in, but it tells me that the log in failed. I do the same thing again and it works. So, it always takes me two attempts to log in.

This isn't the most horrible thing in my life, but it doesn't seem right. I only have to log in every few months and I'm aware of the glitch, so it only takes a couple of extra key strokes. This email took about twenty years of double log ins to do, so if you can't fix it, I can live with doing a double log in, but it would be nice if you could fix it. Am I the only one or does this happen to everybody?

Thanks,

Dave
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Dave Altman

It's in the submit update form

"[If this club no longer exists please inform the editor in the comments box]"
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The Void

protocol for club listing to terminate

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Kloob

Re: New Keyword?

Sounds good to me - just added it. It might take a little while for various caches and other magic spells before it appears on the video front page.
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Colin E.

Re: It hasn't completely disappeared

Thank Jon, this link has been removed.
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Colin E.

A quick fix

Hi All,

Sorry it has taken so long ...

I have finally fixed the JuggleStay problem so that you can now update your profiles. If I have missed anything - please let me know.

Regards,
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Colin E.

It hasn't completely disappeared

There is a broken link to the shop in the see also box on the videos section:

http://www.jugglingdb.com/videos/
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Jon

Metalink

Just noting this for possible future consideration as a way of handling all the different mirrors for video downloads:

http://www.metalinker.org/

You provide a single link to an XML file (Example file for OOo: http://torrentfreak.com//images/oo.txt) which specifies meta information & the download manager does the rest of the work. It handles multiple protocols (http, ftp, bittorrent etc.), allows a client to switch from one server to another if one server goes down, or download from multiple servers simultaneously & does download verification.
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Jon

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Sorry for taking my time to getting around to replying to this.

I like the idea of the shows map. The IJDb currently has subcategories of "Shows" and "Workshops" in its Events section (so I guess it has been thought about!), but it is sorely underused, in my opinion. Perhaps the option of listing Shows under the Globe results on IJDb would help.

I've not looked at the Jongle.net calendar before, but it looks pretty good to me. The Links section looks similar to the IJDb one, split into categories, but I can't think of a better way to organise it clearly.

As for the passive users, that is simply the norm. You can always try to encourage participation in the juggling community, but many are happiest to just sit back and consume. It annoys me that so few people ever bother to rate a video in the IJDb. I went through a phase of trying to prompt people to rate every video that came along, but it got tedious. As does encouraging people to volunteer at conventions. I think the danger of trying to get people to participate in a forum is that you will simply get lots of "noise" from youngsters, and few constructive posts. But then... that's the internet for you!

Well, just some rambling there. Anyone else?
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The Void

Uncertain

Hello Christine, searching for 'Jugglestay' on this forum reveals that you are not alone in having problems. I'm not sure of the current state of the IJDb's implementation of Jugglestay - perhaps a dedicated editor has dropped off the scene....?

Colin, please can you post some information on what is or isn't currently happening with Jugglestay?
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The Void

Solution??

On this page http://www.jugglingdb.com/members/jugglestay.php?join=true it says "If, at any time, you wish to leave the JuggleStay list, simply return to this page and delet all your infomration. You will then be removed from the list." Which makes me think that if you ammend rather than delete your info, it might be updated. Although that is pure guesswork.

Colin?
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The Void

Jugglestay

I tried (twice) to put myself on the jugglestay page, and it doesn't appear in the list (it has been a day since I posted it). Any ideas?

--Christine
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Christine M

Re: Frame reduced to zero width

Please tell us what browser you are using.
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Jason Quinn

Re: Frame reduced to zero width

The same thing happens with the Older and Mark all as read links.

Tim
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Tim from Leeds

Frame reduced to zero width

If I click the Newer link the left hand frame (i.e. the thread navigation) is reduced to zero width on the thread I'm leaving. Anyone else have this problem?

Tim
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Tim from Leeds

Frame reduced to zero width

When reading rec.juggling on IJDb if I click the
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Tim from Leeds

New Keyword?

How about "practice video" as a keyword? So many videos are 'just' a bunch of tricks strung together in a Look Mum style, yet don't merit being classed as a "Juggling Movie" IMO.

Yes? No? Thoughts?
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The Void

Thanks!

Thanks!
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The Void

Prop name change request

Since "Non juggling: bolero" is already in the videodb list of props, (and since ALL of the links to those videos currently thus-classified are dead), and since quite a few kendama and bilboquet videos have started to crop up recently ( :-D ) , can that prop name be changed to "Kendama/Bilboquet/Bolero" please?
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The Void

Collective noun

http://www.jugglingdb.com/videos/index.php?uid=S8O0P0N-70133P3300-2
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The Void

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You can become a member using the following link, which can also be found in the top left corner of the site, under the login box:
http://www.jugglingdb.com/members/register.php

You can register an event by going to the following link, which can also be found in the first paragraph of the events page:
http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/submit.php

Hope that helps
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Little Paul

help

Sorry for taking up space but I need help with becoming a member(How do you do it?) and listing a club on jugglingdb. Thanks Chris. My e-mail is cryan72@excite.com
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chris ryan

Re: Thanks

Is the easiest fix to replace the devfor code with a headliner "local group" :-)
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LP

Thanks

Thanks for the heads up ... I am pretty sure I know what the bug is, but nt sure of a good fix :-( I think I will leave it in and call it a 'feature'!
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Colin E.

Re: .

There is seemingly no end to the different ways people use to promote this junk.
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Colin E.

jongle.net V3

Dear Jugglingdb devs.

My name is Olivier Caignart and I would like to share ideas about what a website can bring to the jugglers.
There's a lot of actions amongst the juggling world in France since the first national convention. There has been meetings and lots of great ideas came out. We are now talking about creating a french juggling association whose goals would be to organize a french national convention every year as weel as promote juggling and jugglers. One of the first outputs of these meetings was the will to gather information about how organizing a juggling convention like budgets, maps, etc.... (that would be my job as well as dynamising the birth of the first association)
The other question was "what to do with jongle.net". This website has been running now for 8 years, we are currently using the v2 and everybody agrees that a v3 is necessary. At the present time it has features like a calendar, links to many artists' webpage, and a forum once a great place for exchanging and bringing new ideas, now more like a video vault without spirit. I must say that both calendar and links are useless cause either lost in their interface or the multitude of links.
I would like to share views with your team to create a new tool for both amateur and professionnals. Have you ever thought about it ? One could ask why I ask you guys instead of the french, but I need points of views from outside, people who are less implicated, hope you get what I mean.

For my point of view, promoting juggling starts by promoting the artists, by communicating on their shows, hence having more audience in the theatre or whatever. It really bothers me to miss a show 100km from where I live just because I didn't know about it. Hence, the first webpage could be a map of France (or Europa maybe) with a list of shows currently performing or soon to be performed as well as workshops given by great artists etc...
With the same idea, a professional section with information about how to get money from the governement for instance, how to set up a juggling convention, would be mandatory.
An other disturbing point of jongle.net is that there's hundreds, say thousands, of users that never post anything on the forum, focusing only on the video section. They check if there's a new video and accordingly to their favorite prop, go to the dedicated forum and that's it. I don't blame them but this is not what a forum is about. I think more of a kind of youtube/facebook interface where people could submit their videos, comment others' ones without interfering with the juggling forum. I really enjoy the articles of jugglingdb. That's also something I'd like to have more in jongle.net .

That's only for the beginning. If you're interested in this discussion i'd like to go on and see what is technically possible.
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Olivier

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Listing has been deleted, thanks for the heads up.

It seems quite common that domains expire & are bought up by unscrupulous people to take advantage of whatever traffic is going to that site. Unfortunately because the site is still live the IJDb link checker doesn't flag a problem.
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Jon

Re: Odd behaviour at the IJDb - bug or security breach?

I've had this happen to me, and it's usually the result of someone linking to the event details in the chatroom or on r.j - but instead of linking to the summary info, they link to the "I'm attending this event" bit.

Eg:

Instead of http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?id=7326
They link to
http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?id=7326&add=true

If you're apparently attending an event that you've not heard of at all, then something else is going on.
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LP

Odd behaviour at the IJDb - bug or security breach?

Hi,

I have just been informed that I'm apparently attending a convention listed in the events db. On it's own this could be put down to my beer habit, but I'm told mini found himself added to an event he knew nothing about too.

The event I was added to, and have subsequently removed myself from, was the Herxheim convemtion - http://www.jugglingdb.com/events/index.php?id=7368 - which I recently added or updated (I forget which) but I can't really see a straightforward way of accidentally adding myself to an event whilst logged in as an event editor.

My guess is that this is just a random foobar, but maybe we should keep an eye on things for a few days.

HTH.

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Jay
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Jay Linn

IJDb Developers' Forum

Fixed

Re: b0rked ... by design

Re: b0rked ... by design

Re: Update - my bad :(

Update - my bad :(

*Bump* - request to maintain event submission text formatting

Re: wrong forum

wrong forum

ZirkuLaer N°4,any participants from sweden?

wrong forum

under leg with balls specials

b0rked ... by design

Events search appears to be b0rked

JuggleWiki link

Setting up a mail address for corrections/suggestions reg. translations

'Unknown' video category empty for translated pages

Minor problem with event submissions

Re: Added.

Re: Only works intermittently for me

Only works intermittently for me

Works for me

Double log in required

It's in the submit update form

protocol for club listing to terminate

Re: New Keyword?

Re: It hasn't completely disappeared

A quick fix

It hasn't completely disappeared

Metalink

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Uncertain

Solution??

Jugglestay

Re: Frame reduced to zero width

Re: Frame reduced to zero width

Frame reduced to zero width

Frame reduced to zero width

New Keyword?

Thanks!

Prop name change request

Collective noun

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help

Re: Thanks

Thanks

Re: .

jongle.net V3

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Re: Odd behaviour at the IJDb - bug or security breach?

Odd behaviour at the IJDb - bug or security breach?

Bump - request to maintain event submission text formatting